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The Baldwin thing - Trub Lou - 10-23-2021
I have no real love for Alec Baldwin, but the people calling for charges to be brought over all of this are off their fucking rocker.
Definitely investigate the chain of custody to see how a live round or other debris got in there, but I think the actor has exactly zero culpability if they're handed a prop weapon to use in a scene and *whoops*, it fires for real. That's gotta be such a headfuck.
RE: The Baldwin thing - dave - 10-23-2021
My question is why he was aiming at the producer and director? Was he supposed to be aiming at the camera and they were right behind it?
Anyway, we need to ban all guns before Baldwin kills again!
RE: The Baldwin thing - bdutton - 10-23-2021
(10-23-2021, 12:28 PM)Trub Lou Wrote: I have no real love for Alec Baldwin, but the people calling for charges to be brought over all of this are off their fucking rocker.
Definitely investigate the chain of custody to see how a live round or other debris got in there, but I think the actor has exactly zero culpability if they're handed a prop weapon to use in a scene and *whoops*, it fires for real. That's gotta be such a headfuck.
I agree I feel bad for him. I'm sure he must feel terrible about the accident. He is listed as the producer and actor. As an actor he is not liable but as producer he is responsible for all the staff on the set. He hired the set armorer and is therefore indirectly responsible for the shooting. Charges could be coming for that.
(10-23-2021, 01:01 PM)dave Wrote: My question is why he was aiming at the producer and director? Was he supposed to be aiming at the camera and they were right behind it?
Anyway, we need to ban all guns before Baldwin kills again!
He was rehearsing a scene. Aiming at the camera which was manned by the cinematographer (woman who died) and the director was probably directly behind her and got the bullet after pass-through.
It was also reported that some of the safety staff walked off the set due to repeated mis-fires of the prop guns and probably Baldwin giving them shit.
RE: The Baldwin thing - Mexas Joe - 11-08-2021
They began ripping down the set, so Rust will never wrap.
I'm thinking Baldwin ends up with a light slap on the pee pee and writes a fat check.
RE: The Baldwin thing - Vagus - 11-08-2021
reLEASE the director's cut!
RE: The Baldwin thing - garyNconcord - 11-09-2021
From everything I've read, SOP for Hollywood is if the armorer/"expert" hands you, the star, a fully functional weapon and says its ok, then you're free to aim it at a human being and pull the trigger. Goes against every piece of training/scrap of paper I've read regarding gun safety, to the point of cringing even writing this.
On that basis, Baldwin is off the hook, although I'm sure there'll be other lawsuits.
If you're going to take a weapon and point it at someone, you should be the last check in verifying its in a safe condition. Don't know enough to verify that? Then you have no business holding it.
And of course there's the question with technology today, should a functional firearm even be on a movie set?